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Deidra 11-28-2010 11:21 AM

Sellouts
 
I've noticed that whenever an obscure/less mainstream band or singer hits it big, some of their earlier followers are quick to deem them as sellouts.

For some musicians, I feel that eventually they want some type of payoff from their years of fighting to get noticed. That may come in the form of a larger fan base or a platinum album.

What "guidelines" constitute bands/artists as sellouts?

xxMeggieMaggot 12-21-2010 04:41 AM

Some bands that have 'sold out'/commercialised:
  • My Chemical Romance
  • Fallout Boy
  • P!ATD
  • Linkin Park
  • Paramore
  • 30STM
These bands used to be about the music and the fans... All of those bands used to be labelled as 'emo'/punk/hardcore whatever, which is why the DIE HARD fans get angry when they start playing pop crap and everyone walks around saying "THIS IS MY FAVOURITE BAND!".
Yes it's probably better for the band, but it's annoying.

Deidra 12-28-2010 12:22 AM

Ahh, I understand where you're coming from. However, that poses another question:

Should bands cater only to the die-hards that were there from the beginning or the fans they've acquired along the way?

No doubt that increased popularity comes with bandwagon fans. However, some of these fans become die-hard too and check out the previous music before the huge fame.

E_Street_Sister 05-27-2011 06:54 PM

Bands should do both, cater to the new fans and the old fans. For example, I'm a huge Bruce Springsteen fan. He usually plays two or more concerts in one area. The first night(s) are usually for his newer music, thus more appealing for fans that have just jumped onto the bandwagon.The last night(s) are usually for the older songs, and are more fun for diehard fans since the beginning, since they're more familiar with the music. I've noticed a similar pattern with Bon Jovi, as well. :grin:

noirmali 05-28-2011 04:13 PM

Ugh. Linkin Park. LOVED the band back when they made rock. Same with my best friend. But now they're trying to make Pop music - and I hate it, I hate their new style, and although people love it I think it's BS compared to their old stuff like In the End; I quit listening to them.

But I have to admit that I've been on the other side as well - I enjoy listening to Daft Punk's Tron Legacy soundtrack. People say that this was what made them "sell outs" because the music they made for it is purely techno and based only for what people enjoy. I love it, and listen to it, but the diehard fans are angry at them for creating this CD.

My friend says the same thing has happened to Muse and she doesn't like their new style.

I feel the same for Avril Lavigne although it's much less subtle. If you listen to her first and second album you can very much feel emotions but her third album is just advertising herself or something. ( How does it feel..? To be different, different from me ) Vs ( HEY HEY YOU YOU I DON'T LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND NO WAI NO WAI I THINK U NEED A NEW ONE )

...Yeah.

I think that the band needs to balance. I'd like to hear some more rock from Avril, but I'm glad that she's managed to popularize herself.

LINKI PARK YOUR NEW MUSIC IS CRAP BUT IF U WANNA MAKE CRAP THEN MAKE GOOD SONGS TOO K?

belladoggy 05-30-2011 03:41 PM

I've heard people complain about Green Day, and Yellowcard has been around for so long that it's almost impossible for the orignial original fans not to be ticked...but I like both of them. If you wanna make something your living, make stuff people will listen to. And I only discovered YC this year and have gone back and listened to/gotten copies of all but their oldest music. Actually, Reel Big Fish has a song called "Sell Out"...wanna watch it?

Cheshire1996 06-02-2011 06:48 AM

Can I jump in and make a loose comparison to politicians?

I think it's similar to having a wonderful person with an interest in politics do well in their area. Although they still might be wonderful people they're going to do have to do the things that will get them votes or support, even if those things disappoint the people who originally backed them up. it's very rare to find a person who can please both their first loyal supporters and the supporters they've gained along the way, as often both groups have different ideas of what is right. Soon enough we startup see these people as greedy and careless.

As soon as bands see the subtle hints of becoming more popular I think they reach for those opportunities a lot of the time, not only will it mean more money but also a lot more tours and such. However it's hard to please both the loyal fans and the new fans. Often the new fans determine the way the band goes, which is a bit disappointing, and so the die-hard fans might come to see the band as sell-outs.

This, of course, is merely my humble opinion, but I think it's another interesting topic. I also find it funny how things can work the other way. Although band might not change their style, die-hard fans might turn away as the group becomes more popular because with this popularity the band becomes 'mainstream' which I think a lot of people don't like to be seen as.

Like I said, interesting topic :D


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