Add to Favorites  
    


Cartoon Dolls Community  - Doll forums and doll maker discussion boards Cartoon Dolls Community  - Doll forums and doll maker discussion boards Visit The Doll Palace - Where Cartoon Dolls Live

General Discussion Anything you want to talk about.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Silver_Wolf_Kitty's Avatar
Silver_Wolf_Kitty (Offline)
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 2,222
Join Date: Dec 2003
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 36 Votes / 3.83 Average
Default Death Penalty - 11-13-2007, 06:13 PM

I'm on a role this week when it comes to creating threads xD

I was reading an article about the lethal injection method and the possibility of it being revised and wondered what you all thought. Do you support it completely, wish to ban it, or want more restrictions on it? If you support it, what methods do you approve of? What sort of restrictions should be added?

Personally, I feel the death penalty is an easy way out for the prisoner who will never have to face the consequences of his actions. There have been plenty of people, who were put to death, that later on were proven to be innocent by DNA evidence. However, some people absolutely need to be put to death to protect the public. These people would have to be serious threats such as serial murderers or rapists though.

The only problem is the fact that we don't have a reasonably humane way to put these people to death. Lethal injections do not work for everyone and has been proven to paralyze a person occassionally, but they still have to suffer the agony of dying. The other authorized choices aren't that great either. Firing squads, hanging, gas chambers, and electrocution have been proven to be even worse than lethal injections.

Looking at it in a non-emotional way, it costs more money to put someone to death than it does to incarcerate them for life. Also, it has been proven to be related to crime rates. In months where there are more executions, there tends to be higher crime rates. Finally, there is no set guideline from state to state. A person in New York who commits a crime is not eligible while in another state they are. It just appears to me that the federal government should at least create guidelines for the death penalty and required circumstances if the prosecutor wants to pursue it. Overall, the bad points seem to overly outweigh the goods of the death penalty.

For more information and statistics: Death Penalty Information Center
Method Descriptions: Descriptions of Execution Methods
Crimes Punishable by the Death Penalty(by state): Crimes Punishable by the Death Penalty (please note some may have changed)


Av & Sig Credit: Me
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Silent_Wolf's Avatar
Silent_Wolf (Offline)
Forums Moderator
 
Posts: 84,428
Join Date: Jan 2005
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Rating: 18 Votes / 4.56 Average
Default 11-13-2007, 06:15 PM

This is one topic I am keeping my trap shut on; I seriously think some guys should be put to death, end of story. Like that guy from my state, Scott Laci or something; he murdered his pregnant wife in cold blood, and I'm not even sure if he got off of the charges. All I know is that he was a scumbag and shouldn't be allowed to be alive.



I stare at the girl in the mirror: T-shirt, torn up jeans, no beauty queen.
But the way that you see me, you get underneath me, and all my defenses just fall away, fall away.
I am beautiful with you, even in the darkest part of me. I am beautiful with you;
Make it feel the way it's supposed to be!

You're here with me: Just show me this and I'll believe I am beautiful with you!
Halestorm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Silver_Wolf_Kitty's Avatar
Silver_Wolf_Kitty (Offline)
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 2,222
Join Date: Dec 2003
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 36 Votes / 3.83 Average
Default 11-13-2007, 06:30 PM

But would putting him to death bring her or their unborn child back? There are horrible crimes commited everywhere, but does that mean they should be allowed to get the death penalty and escape from their conscience? I think a life incarceration would teach a point much better than letting them off.

Maybe it takes seeing a jail or prison to really understand the environment, but it isn't a walk in the park. They aren't pampered or anything. While the buildngs themselves may not be bad, you still have to worry about the inmates. Some of them would kill you just to get a pair of socks, which I feel is a fully justifiable environment for men(and women) like Scott Peterson(I think that's his last name as his wife was Laci).


On a side note, I'm going to ask that no one posts any arguments like "God says its bad, so I don't like it." That really doesn't add anything to the topic.


Av & Sig Credit: Me
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Silent_Wolf's Avatar
Silent_Wolf (Offline)
Forums Moderator
 
Posts: 84,428
Join Date: Jan 2005
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Rating: 18 Votes / 4.56 Average
Default 11-13-2007, 06:31 PM

No, it wouldn't, but who's to say he isn't feeling guilt about it at all? He tried to skip town after her death.



I stare at the girl in the mirror: T-shirt, torn up jeans, no beauty queen.
But the way that you see me, you get underneath me, and all my defenses just fall away, fall away.
I am beautiful with you, even in the darkest part of me. I am beautiful with you;
Make it feel the way it's supposed to be!

You're here with me: Just show me this and I'll believe I am beautiful with you!
Halestorm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
Miranda_'s Avatar
Miranda_ (Offline)
Forums Administrator
Site Admin
 
Posts: 151,281
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rating: 46 Votes / 5.00 Average
Default 11-13-2007, 06:49 PM

And personally, I'd prefer it if my taxes weren't being used to keep scumbags, serial killers and pedophiles alive. -.- As for so called innocent victims, the ones that people round here cite are Evans and Hanratty. Hanratty was proven to be guilty years after the fact by DNA testing; Evans was considered to be guilty of his wife's murder by the Brabin inquiry. Cuz he was convicted of his daughter's murder only, he got a pardon. As for the whole "Let him have it" controvosy, intent counts in a case of a killer couple. You don't have to be the one who did the killing, but if you were there and therefore allowed it to happen, a judge can claim you had intent and are therefore also guilty. The people who were truly innocent of murder are very few compared to the guilty who got away scot free.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#6 (permalink))
Old
Silver_Wolf_Kitty's Avatar
Silver_Wolf_Kitty (Offline)
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 2,222
Join Date: Dec 2003
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 36 Votes / 3.83 Average
Default 11-13-2007, 07:11 PM

I think we all have issues with keeping them alive, but I also have issues paying for their numerous appeals when they get the death penalty. Its strange that it ends up costing more to put them to death than to keep them alive, but oddly enough true.

If they are going to put them to death, at least someone should take the time out to find a humane way. More and more bot.ched executions with lethal injections have been reported in recent times, making me think that its not quite so humane as everyone makes it out to be. When they are bot.ched, I hate to think of the money a family then tries to get out of the government. I see lawsuits galore in a system that allows people to sue over hot coffee.


Av & Sig Credit: Me
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Life after death tjsgrl01 General Discussion 70 10-21-2008 02:42 AM
RP The Death Cult. Sarah_K_O_M RPG Games 4754 04-07-2006 06:00 PM



© 2007 The Doll Palace