Twilight

[Sarah_K_O_M]

Originally Posted by Doctorwho_gal

Although I like the HP series I prefer Twilight to Harry Potter because the HP characters are so cliche. Harry is your stupidly reckless average hero who would be dead if it wasn't for Hermione's (your average stereotyped geek with 'hidden beauty') efforts. Ron is the well meaning but tactless friend.
The hero in Twilight (Bella) is so different from you average hero I found it much easier to like her. She is intelligent and sensible, very down to earth. She thinks things through before she does things although there is a sense of you 'damsel in distress' about her.
All the incessant Edward fan girls are enough to put anyone off. But the story does have depth. Its very different from any book I have read. I like the day to day feel of it, its not all action and the character just gets on with life instead of moping about *cough* like harry potter *cough*
Anyway, its not fair to judge it unless you've read it.

Twilight? Not cliched? Are you joking me? It's the most cliched book under the sun. Bella is a complete Mary Sue with less brains than a pencil. Now, don't get me wrong, I do like the books, they have this strange addictive quality. But she's an idiot and the book has no greater depth or romance than 'You're hot, I smell good! Let's be in love!'

Seriously though, she never talks about anything but how lovely Edward looks and he only likes her for her smell. What kind of relationship is that? In Twilight all that seems to matter is the outside.

*NEW MOON SPOILERS*

And clearly you haven't read New Moon. Bella spends about four or five months going around like a freaking robot because Edward leaves and then she gets freaking suicidal because when she does stupid things she hears his voice. So she does suicidal things as often as she can. That's not intelligent or sensible. That's moronic.

So seriously, Twilight not cliched or having a smart heroine? Um, no. Afraid not.

[Silent_Wolf]

Also, if you ask me Harry had a bit of a right to be mopey- he lost his parents, his godfather, Dumbledore, blah blah, etc. Bella? Nope, lost nobody far as I know.

Mind, I read half of the first chapter of the first book so I could very well be wrong, but come on!!!!

[Sarah_K_O_M]

She doesn't. All her hardships are her own doing, to be honest. She didn't even have to go to Forks in teh first place, the reasons she gave for it were complete waffle.

[iluvdolphin6]

FYI, Bella gets pregnet in the fourth book, but it is not a regular baby, cause when, well, got pregnet by Edward, she was still human, but the little, creature thing, is killing her. but she wants to give birth to it.when she is still human, she starts drinking blood, while walking to the bathroom, she drops the cups of blood, she bends down to pick it up, and then it, well, happens. after birth, she becomes a vampire. it has 2 perspectives from bella, and one from jacob. but bella's baby, is like 3 months old, but looks like a 2 year old. and she has a, gift. you have to read the book to know exactly what im talking about. im not trying to spoil it.
Oh, i forgot, while the lil devil, is in her body, it starts breaking her bones, for example, her ribs.

DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT BREAKING DAWN!

[Miranda_]

What Sarah said. Also, this comic strip helps to sum up my feelings about Twilight: Head Trip

[Jeneet]

Mmm, i think Twilight is an interesting book. Just can't wait for it to come out in Australia during December! Though the book would be more interesting because she gives you heaps more details. I'm currently reading New Moon

[Aihana_]

I started reading Twilight because so many people told me it was a really good book. I am only 200 pages in and I like it so far, and also, the library at my school is poorly stocked and this was the most updated book I could find.
Edward does seem a bit too perfect, and Bella's a bit of a Mary Sue.
But the books themselves are really addicting.
I can't wait to read the other books!
And I wanted to say, every time I imagine Edward talking, in my mind it plays like he has an English accent....

[Doctorwho_gal]

Originally Posted by Sarah_K_O_M

Twilight? Not clichéd? Are you joking me? It's the most clichéd book under the sun. Bella is a complete Mary Sue with less brains than a pencil. Now, don't get me wrong, I do like the books, they have this strange addictive quality. But she's an idiot and the book has no greater depth or romance than 'You're hot, I smell good! Let's be in love!'

Seriously though, she never talks about anything but how lovely Edward looks and he only likes her for her smell. What kind of relationship is that? In Twilight all that seems to matter is the outside.

*NEW MOON SPOILERS*

And clearly you haven't read New Moon. Bella spends about four or five months going around like a freaking robot because Edward leaves and then she gets freaking suicidal because when she does stupid things she hears his voice. So she does suicidal things as often as she can. That's not intelligent or sensible. That's moronic.

So seriously, Twilight not clichéd or having a smart heroine? Um, no. Afraid not.

The bit where she gets depressed 'cos Edwards leaves, she is depressed ...
not moronic ... Quite different things ...

The constant Edward descriptions are annoying, and really quite unnecessary I do realize that. Although he doesn't just love her because she 'smells good ' her loves her in spite of that. that is very well established. Especially if you read Breaking Dawn.

Although I like him, I think Bella is better and stronger on her own. And she is intelligent. She is responsible, and in general not overly reckless, comparing it with HP, Harry never does any work and just relies on Hermione to do it for him and rushes into situation head first with no consideration for the effect it would have on his loved ones. Bella wouldn't do that unless Edward was under threat.

I just think in general the idea for Twilight is an original one and I hope people can see past the Edward loving fangirls.

[Miranda_]

I'm sorry, but if you truly believe what you're typing, you're deluding yourself. Bella Swan, aka Beautiful Swan, is a classic Mary Sue. Edward is boring, drab and unrealistic (sparkly veggie vampires are NOT realistic!) and Bella is clearly a self insert. The whole book reads like a Mills & Boon with vampires tacked on. If you want to read proper vampire literature, there are literally hundreds of authors to choose from, rather than this drabble.

[Sarah_K_O_M]

Originally Posted by Doctorwho_gal

The bit where she gets depressed 'cos Edwards leaves, she is depressed ...
not moronic ... Quite different things ...

The constant Edward descriptions are annoying, and really quite unnecessary I do realize that. Although he doesn't just love her because she 'smells good ' her loves her in spite of that. that is very well established. Especially if you read Breaking Dawn.

Although I like him, I think Bella is better and stronger on her own. And she is intelligent. She is responsible, and in general not overly reckless, comparing it with HP, Harry never does any work and just relies on Hermione to do it for him and rushes into situation head first with no consideration for the effect it would have on his loved ones. Bella wouldn't do that unless Edward was under threat.

I just think in general the idea for Twilight is an original one and I hope people can see past the Edward loving fangirls.

Well, I guess we'll have to disagree on that. I don't see the intelligence of going near-comatose just because some fella leaves.

And please, tell me where she's strong, intelligent or responsible. In Twilight she's perfectly overjoyed to go God knows where with a guy who even himself admits that he's incredibly dangerous to her and in fact MIGHT KILL HER AT ANY MOMENT.
In New Moon she's willing to jump off a cliff to hear his voice.
Intelligence? Not in my book, but apparently you read a different series.

And the difference between Bella and Harry is just that. Bella's so needy and clingy and can't function without him.
Harry isn't and though he may do stupid things, he at least gets the consequences of that. People get hurt when he messes up, but everything goes rosy for Bella.

And prey loving predator is not original in anyway. It's a dead horse by now.